When you think "Discord is centralized and that's an issue", why the fuck is "oh just make a Discord cryptocurrency" your very first thought‽
Seriously you crypto types fucking never think outside of your personal bubble of cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and "blockchain technologies", not even to just peer-to-peer technologies in general.
What does decentralization **REALLY** mean? It means making the Discord server-side software and CDN software available to the public, and integrate this change in the Discord client. In the same way that Mastodon and Matrix are decentralized.
This would solve the issues of users needing to rely on Discord servers being up (which is not always the case), needing to trust the Discord servers and how they handle user data (there has been at least one known vulnerability which allowed disclosure of other user data), and needing to always follow Discord's ToS. A good case for breaking ToS on your own server (running on your own hardware), is for bug hunting and finding vulnerabilities, since you're not allowed to do it on the official Discord servers.
Please think about **REAL** decentralization before you try to just shove in cryptocurrency where it need not be. Integrating monetary transactions would be cool for Discord, and would make a lot of things easier, but I think it's more important to decentralize way before sending money comes into play. I know I wouldn't want a WeChat-style situation where the one company controls the private conversations and transactions of like millions of people.
Plus you should stop being so limited in your thoughts on making it only cryptocurrencies. It's true that it would be easier to implement, but so many more people just use PayPal or Venmo or CashApp right now, and they don't want to use a different money sending service just for Discord.
You've summed up my thoughts fantastically. After all, isn't a large influential organization like Discord managing all this... the literal antithesis of what decentralized means? A central party managing things?
I have high hopes for the technology of blockchain in our future but this silicon valley cryptobro nonsense like in this article is probably the largest reason why the general public is so against adopting it.
Cryptocurrency is going to run Discord into the ground. I can't stand you moronic "decentralized" bozos. Your web3 and crypto BS is the worst thing to come out of this generation in a long, long time. Good riddance.
The internet was already decentralized, it was already "a series of tubes" it already was a bunch of disparate communities until Google, Twitter, and Facebook came in and paved over the neighborhoods that were already there. Discord isn't some "Brand New Weird Quirky Thing That Started For Gamers Until Normal Non-Degenerates Flocked To It", it's a messaging client, like AIM and MSN and Pidgin before it. People flock to it because it has robust chatroom tools in a world that apparently forgot it already had chatrooms once. Discord only "doesn't know what it is" to anyone out of touch enough to not know what the letters AOL or IRC stand for. Not everything needs to have a freaking blockchain coin attached to it, go away.
you blindly follow a pyramid scheme on top of a pyramid scheme, unaware that your actions and your "crypto community" steal and grift from artists, destroy the beauty of mother earth, and create nothing of intrinsic value. May all your crypto-mining rigs catch fire, your NFTs error 404, and may you be caught holding the bag as crypto's pump-and-dump schemes crash around you.
LOL at the "different" people on this comment chain (with similar usernames) spreading the hate. I guess this is an indicator that you made it @packy @mario
Although I'm pro crypto your ideas are a sort of WTF, how do we turn a community platform into a pump-and-dump scheme riddled scam. The value of your argument ended with accepting crypto in their store, and maybe linking wallets to accounts. No VC will touch discord after it meddles with crypto to "message" users.
The possibility of Discord decentralizing... was just talking about this last week with a friend. Would be incredible. So few people even know what that means, or why a company would consider it. Tom, if you're reading this, would be happy to chat :-)
When you think "Discord is centralized and that's an issue", why the fuck is "oh just make a Discord cryptocurrency" your very first thought‽
Seriously you crypto types fucking never think outside of your personal bubble of cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and "blockchain technologies", not even to just peer-to-peer technologies in general.
What does decentralization **REALLY** mean? It means making the Discord server-side software and CDN software available to the public, and integrate this change in the Discord client. In the same way that Mastodon and Matrix are decentralized.
This would solve the issues of users needing to rely on Discord servers being up (which is not always the case), needing to trust the Discord servers and how they handle user data (there has been at least one known vulnerability which allowed disclosure of other user data), and needing to always follow Discord's ToS. A good case for breaking ToS on your own server (running on your own hardware), is for bug hunting and finding vulnerabilities, since you're not allowed to do it on the official Discord servers.
Please think about **REAL** decentralization before you try to just shove in cryptocurrency where it need not be. Integrating monetary transactions would be cool for Discord, and would make a lot of things easier, but I think it's more important to decentralize way before sending money comes into play. I know I wouldn't want a WeChat-style situation where the one company controls the private conversations and transactions of like millions of people.
Plus you should stop being so limited in your thoughts on making it only cryptocurrencies. It's true that it would be easier to implement, but so many more people just use PayPal or Venmo or CashApp right now, and they don't want to use a different money sending service just for Discord.
You've summed up my thoughts fantastically. After all, isn't a large influential organization like Discord managing all this... the literal antithesis of what decentralized means? A central party managing things?
I have high hopes for the technology of blockchain in our future but this silicon valley cryptobro nonsense like in this article is probably the largest reason why the general public is so against adopting it.
Cryptocurrency is going to run Discord into the ground. I can't stand you moronic "decentralized" bozos. Your web3 and crypto BS is the worst thing to come out of this generation in a long, long time. Good riddance.
web3 and NFTs make me want to vomit, disgusting scam
Wonder why all the hate? Fascinating and inspirational as always Packy! I love how you look at the practical use cases of Web3.
The internet was already decentralized, it was already "a series of tubes" it already was a bunch of disparate communities until Google, Twitter, and Facebook came in and paved over the neighborhoods that were already there. Discord isn't some "Brand New Weird Quirky Thing That Started For Gamers Until Normal Non-Degenerates Flocked To It", it's a messaging client, like AIM and MSN and Pidgin before it. People flock to it because it has robust chatroom tools in a world that apparently forgot it already had chatrooms once. Discord only "doesn't know what it is" to anyone out of touch enough to not know what the letters AOL or IRC stand for. Not everything needs to have a freaking blockchain coin attached to it, go away.
you blindly follow a pyramid scheme on top of a pyramid scheme, unaware that your actions and your "crypto community" steal and grift from artists, destroy the beauty of mother earth, and create nothing of intrinsic value. May all your crypto-mining rigs catch fire, your NFTs error 404, and may you be caught holding the bag as crypto's pump-and-dump schemes crash around you.
LOL at the "different" people on this comment chain (with similar usernames) spreading the hate. I guess this is an indicator that you made it @packy @mario
This is dogshit fuck you discord team you should feel bad
Although I'm pro crypto your ideas are a sort of WTF, how do we turn a community platform into a pump-and-dump scheme riddled scam. The value of your argument ended with accepting crypto in their store, and maybe linking wallets to accounts. No VC will touch discord after it meddles with crypto to "message" users.
I hope discord does not change..I like that it is confusing for the masses !
We are hoping it doesn’t become inundated by the sharks and their woeful pivots.🙏🏽
This article was good until you started talking about web3.
Wen notboring discord? :)
this update is terrible fuck you genuinely never implement this
The possibility of Discord decentralizing... was just talking about this last week with a friend. Would be incredible. So few people even know what that means, or why a company would consider it. Tom, if you're reading this, would be happy to chat :-)